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August 4th, 2010
#11
I don't think they planned out transformations much. It's pretty easy to do Saiyans as they went up to SSJ3 in the manga. So it's a given. Having their Ozaru/Ape transformation would be cool though, but humans would need to gain a tail.

They could allow possible fusion/absorbtion with more powerful nameks to get stronger. Though there may be no way to make them actually weaker since they remain that way.

Also with buu they also went to his "max" transformation. I don't remember the end of dragonball, but I think it would have been better they went through the stages of transformations if they were considering doing multiple transformations. Fat buu, Super Buu/Kid buu would been great for transformation selection.

I don't expect to see anything else, but I did like what they did with nameks in the opening. I wanted to play a namek, but I didn't like the fact that they just get bigger.



Hopefully none will be put in. The whole namekian (super namekian) thing wasn’t so much a transformation, it was more a half becoming whole, and seeing as the namekians in dbo are full namekians there is no need for it. I see it as simply getting to 50+ in the game makes you a super namekian.

And i personally think any made up transformations would only be for the sake of fans. and that isn’t enough for me.

lol like I’ve been saying for ages now, the most we could do with in later lvls (meaning 65+) would be a cooldown reduction and maybe an additional super attack for the transformation.
August 4th, 2010
#12

lol like I’ve been saying for ages now, the most we could do with in later lvls (meaning 65+) would be a cooldown reduction and maybe an additional super attack for the transformation.

for Humans, they kinda can pull this off. i mean when Gohan and Goku went to train to fight in the Cell Games, they came up with a trans that lets them be SSJ all the time. i mean, while the other races have cooldown reductions and more attacks, what humans get is this trans, which is basically, the same as the first but with the ability to stay in that form longer, meaning less energy drain and such. oh coarse when you learn this new trans, the old SSJ is no more, since you dont really need it now do you?
August 4th, 2010
#13
for Humans, they kinda can pull this off. i mean when Gohan and Goku went to train to fight in the Cell Games, they came up with a trans that lets them be SSJ all the time. i mean, while the other races have cooldown reductions and more attacks, what humans get is this trans, which is basically, the same as the first but with the ability to stay in that form longer, meaning less energy drain and such. oh coarse when you learn this new trans, the old SSJ is no more, since you dont really need it now do you?

That kind of undermines what it was I'm getting at. I was thinking that instead of having one transformation, you'd have two. One that drains ki, another that doesn't. While one's on cooldown you can use the other. There's no point in having Super Saiyan not drain ki. That'd probably make it over powered since you could spam it a lot easier and you have twice as much ki as you use it. Humans are over powered enough as it is.
August 4th, 2010
#14
they could make a time based super saiyan or basically make skills u lvl up by using them so if u use super saiyan alot u can use it for longer or with less EP reduction.
August 4th, 2010
#15
That kind of undermines what it was I'm getting at. I was thinking that instead of having one transformation, you'd have two. One that drains ki, another that doesn't. While one's on cooldown you can use the other. There's no point in having Super Saiyan not drain ki. That'd probably make it over powered since you could spam it a lot easier and you have twice as much ki as you use it. Humans are over powered enough as it is.

I I’m not entirely sure about the theory from the other guy. But the idea i had wasn’t for just humans. I merely think that any other transformations are unnecessary and cooldown reductions for all classes would be better.

I don't think namekians, humans or majins need anything else to show how strong they are. The cooldown reduction idea was mainly to make the transitions to harder bosses, quest and tmq's easier.

There is also the fact that any alternatives would not fit into the cannon on Dragon ball.

Last edited on August 4th, 2010 at 05:56 PM.
August 4th, 2010
#16
My whole opinion on it is that they're just not far enough in the story for us to expect any major changes. After the TMQ's get past the Frieza saga, I think we'll see more. The artist/writer from DB and DBZ is the same guy that's writing the story in game. So from my point of view, I think he's going to give his fans the service of letting them reach different leveled transforms... different tiers, if you will. The problem is like with most MMO's with transforms... once you get a higher tier form, the other becomes obsolete. My point being that no game maker wants to make a **** load of model edits and animations and special fx that are just going to become obsolete.

I think we'll see different transformations for everyone though. Up to at least SSJ3. And also, the whole "ALTERNATE", not "NEW", transformation idea you're talking about Kiyza... it's not a bad one. If you think about it, having a couple different options would be great.

Right now it's about whether or not the game get gain enough popularity for them to have the budget to make all of this stuff? We just gotta keep spreadin the word. They wanna give us all what we want, but they need money to do it.
August 4th, 2010
#17
I I’m not entirely sure about the theory from the other guy. But the idea i had wasn’t for just humans. I merely think that any other transformations are unnecessary and cooldown reductions for all classes would be better.

I don't think namekians, humans or majins need anything else to show how strong they are. The cooldown reduction idea was mainly to make the transitions to harder bosses, quest and tmq's easier.

There is also the fact that any alternatives would not fit into the cannon on Dragon ball.

My only issue with the transformations as is happens to be the fact that humans could potentially stay Super Saiyan's permanently if they take breaks in the form and the other races can use it for 10 minutes. It just seems like an unnessecary seperation of the two. Why have the transfromations be so different? Depending on the situation, one can clearly be better than the other, so why not have the best of both worlds? It just seems like something that could potentially cause an upset in the game's already uneven balance.

But you do have a good point about canon. The game as a whole follows it so strictly that it causes serious doubts about what will and won't be added. In all honesty, I think I'd rather have the game be very strict to it, but some leeway does need to be allowed here and there. Perhaps this isn't the place where that should be applied, though.
August 5th, 2010
#18
I would like ssj2 but my thing is, is up with majin buu beat the freak out of goku and he was ssj3 but this is a game so i guess they can't over power him... would love ssj2 tho ;P
August 5th, 2010
#19
I would like ssj2 but my thing is, is up with majin buu beat the freak out of goku and he was ssj3 but this is a game so i guess they can't over power him... would love ssj2 tho ;P

As long as you keep making gameplay vs. tv show/manga you're going to get disappointed. They obviously HAVE to balance the game, but even so, there's no reason the Majins should be more powerful than Humans. They're all offspring, so their likely not going to have the power level anywhere close to Majin Buu's until they work their way up to it.
August 5th, 2010
#20
Going by canon, pretty much nothing in this game should stand much of a chance against a Namekian Warrior. Nail had a battle power of 42,000, which I should note is more than twice as strong as Vegeta when he's first introduced. But alas they've been reduced to little more than tanks, taking the damage for Human/Saiyan hybrids... <_<

Game needs balance before more transformations are added. 'Nuff said.