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Fair enough, divine did use female turtle book as am advantage but, how many fighters used the dodge pot advantage bak in the day? I find that although he did use it, doesn't mean he has any less skill, just mean he pays attention and uses strategy to outwit his opponents. Anyone could have turned and made a female turtle, there's no real advantage to somethig anyone can do.
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but fighters like me and simmy adapted to it and made it our advanatages. We won budokai's without it.
With me winning second place vs 4 SKs and divine. The maintenance after dodge pots being tooken out.
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I agree with Jocer, I think DiviNe was only good because he had way better ping than us and sitpots.
Those things are called "sipots/candy"
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It's not actually the ping. It was the sitpots and the CD value. She had 26 x2, 17 on CC gear and 7 on classes with RP. Making everything spammable.
She spammed sit pots. She would die easy to every SK without them.
List the times she won before the scouter update.....lol dat silence! With 65-96 crit rate ofc a turtle is going to kill people easy with no anti crit and no dodge pots.
Last edited on November 16th, 2013 at 02:56 PM.
Reason: Double Post
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To give my opinión you shoud imagine all class with all +15 with the best combination of weapons/gears/rings/earrings/neck, Ping, Lag, dogi effects, etc... Also you need to see all differents battles
I'm going to give my opinión about the differents combinations of Ranks with all characters +15 etc etc Without time in the Rank/budokai and Neutral Stat "bug"
Some battles really i don't know who can win, because i never use that class, but i think that these class has more % to win (never a 100%)...
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Dende vs SK -----------------Dende
Dende vs Poko----------------Dende
Dende vs DW------------------Dende
Dende vs Ultimate------------Dende
Dende vs Chef----------------Dende
Dende vs Plasma--------------Dende
Dende vs Karma---------------Karma
Dende vs Fighter-------------Fighter
Dende vs Sword---------------Sword
Dende vs Turtle--------------Turtle
Dende vs Crane---------------Crane
Poko vs SK-------------------SK (I'm not sure but the Poko has weak EP)
Poko vs DW-------------------Poko (Similar SK, but the SK has less damage)
Poko vs Ultimate-------------Poko (not sure)
Poko vs Chef-----------------Poko
Poko vs Plasma---------------Poko
Poko vs Karma----------------Karma
Poko vs Fighter--------------Fighter
Poko vs Sword----------------Sword
Poko vs Turtle---------------Turtle
Poko vs Crane----------------Crane
SK vs DW---------------------SK
SK vs Ultimate---------------Ultimate (a balanced fight, I think that Ultimate have more % to win)
SK vs Chef-------------------SK
SK vs Plasma-----------------SK
SK vs Karma------------------SK (In Budokai Karma win in decision, but without time i think that SK is better)
SK vs Fighter----------------SK
SK vs Sword------------------SK
SK vs Turtle-----------------Turtle
SK vs Crane------------------Crane
DW vs Ultimate---------------Ultimate (really i'm not sure, because DW has a lot of defense, but the problema is the EP)
DW vs Chef-------------------Chef? (IDK xDDD I say Chef because this class can absorb your EP)
DW vs Plasma-----------------DW
DW vs Karma------------------DW (Without time... not sure)
DW vs Fighter----------------Fighter (I say F, but DW All +15... can be very interesting, but the problem is the damage of the DW and the CD of the recover lp skill)
DW vs Sword------------------Sword (Reflect can be interesting, but i think that Sword has more % to win)
DW vs Turtle-----------------Turtle
DW vs Crane------------------Crane
Ultimate vs Chef-------------Ultimate
Ultimate vs Plasma-----------Ultimate
Ultimate vs Karma------------Ultimate
Ultimate vs Fighter----------Fighter
Ultimate vs Sword------------Sword
Ultimate vs Turtle-----------Turtle
Ultimate vs Crane------------Crane (Ultimate can remove Burn, but i'm not sure that can win a crane
Chef vs Plasma---------------Plasma (i think that the difference with the Ultimate battle is that U has more E.Def and LP%)
Chef vs Karma----------------Karma
Chef vs Fighter--------------Fighter
Chef vs Sword----------------Sword
Chef vs Turtle---------------Turtle
Chef vs Crane----------------Crane
Plasma vs Karma--------------Karma
Plasma vs Fighter------------Fighter
Plasma vs Sword--------------Sword
Plasma vs Turtle-------------Turtle
Plasma vs Crane--------------Plasma
Karma vs Fighter-------------Karma
Karma vs Sword---------------Karma
Karma vs Turtle--------------Karma
Karma vs Crane---------------Karma
Fighter vs Sword-------------Sword (All +15 I think that the Sword can be better)
Fighter vs Turtle------------Turtle
Fighter vs Crane-------------Fighter
Sword vs Turtle--------------Sword
Sword vs Crane---------------Sword
Turtle vs Crane--------------Crane
With the perfect Combination i think that:
1º Sword 9
2º Turtle/Karma 8
3º Fighter/SK/Crane 7
4º Dende 6
5º Ultimate 5
6º Poko 4
7º Plasma/DW 2
8º Chef 1
Usually the problem is the clasification xDD and then the ranks of OP is:
1ºKarma
2ºTurtle
3ºSK/Fighter
4ºSword
(This is the usual Ranking of Class)
Without good gear i think that
1º SK
2º Fighter
3º Sword
4º Turtle
Really Plasma in 1vs1 are weak, but in 5vs5 are a very important member of the party
Sorry, my english is shit xDD
Last edited on November 16th, 2013 at 03:00 PM.
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after scouter update a party with SK, Healer, Ultimate, Fighter, Turtle or Sk,Healer, Ultimate, Fighter, Fighter was better
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I liked 2 SKs, 1 fighter, 1 turtle and 1 plasma.
Healer was useless after the scouter update. They were just 1 shots who were an easy target.
Fighter - Crits everyone
Plasma - Gives Dex for more crit rate to fighter, KD Spam, Anti, stun,fear
SKs - Survive long enough to revive everyone, One shot bolds fighters, fears out
Turtle - Aoe debuff, Aoe one shotter, aoe stun, hit rate
I won party budokai with that team and 2nd place like 7 times.
Back in 60 cap it was harder
Healer, SK, Ultima, Plasma, fighter/swordsman
back when it there was actual competetion
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needle SaiyanKakarot in the ass
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LMAO what class are you, and seriously needles = Fighters' most op moves, needle me in the ass? Naw im a level 70, wanna see my gear >:)
I bet this will be your move...

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To give my opinión you shoud imagine all class with all +15 with the best combination of weapons/gears/rings/earrings/neck, Ping, Lag, dogi effects, etc... Also you need to see all differents battles
I'm going to give my opinión about the differents combinations of Ranks with all characters +15 etc etc Without time in the Rank/budokai and Neutral Stat "bug"
Some battles really i don't know who can win, because i never use that class, but i think that these class has more % to win (never a 100%)...
Click here to see full text
Dende vs SK -----------------Dende
Dende vs Poko----------------Dende
Dende vs DW------------------Dende
Dende vs Ultimate------------Dende
Dende vs Chef----------------Dende
Dende vs Plasma--------------Dende
Dende vs Karma---------------Karma
Dende vs Fighter-------------Fighter
Dende vs Sword---------------Sword
Dende vs Turtle--------------Turtle
Dende vs Crane---------------Crane
Poko vs SK-------------------SK (I'm not sure but the Poko has weak EP)
Poko vs DW-------------------Poko (Similar SK, but the SK has less damage)
Poko vs Ultimate-------------Poko (not sure)
Poko vs Chef-----------------Poko
Poko vs Plasma---------------Poko
Poko vs Karma----------------Karma
Poko vs Fighter--------------Fighter
Poko vs Sword----------------Sword
Poko vs Turtle---------------Turtle
Poko vs Crane----------------Crane
SK vs DW---------------------SK
SK vs Ultimate---------------Ultimate (a balanced fight, I think that Ultimate have more % to win)
SK vs Chef-------------------SK
SK vs Plasma-----------------SK
SK vs Karma------------------SK (In Budokai Karma win in decision, but without time i think that SK is better)
SK vs Fighter----------------SK
SK vs Sword------------------SK
SK vs Turtle-----------------Turtle
SK vs Crane------------------Crane
DW vs Ultimate---------------Ultimate (really i'm not sure, because DW has a lot of defense, but the problema is the EP)
DW vs Chef-------------------Chef? (IDK xDDD I say Chef because this class can absorb your EP)
DW vs Plasma-----------------DW
DW vs Karma------------------DW (Without time... not sure)
DW vs Fighter----------------Fighter (I say F, but DW All +15... can be very interesting, but the problem is the damage of the DW and the CD of the recover lp skill)
DW vs Sword------------------Sword (Reflect can be interesting, but i think that Sword has more % to win)
DW vs Turtle-----------------Turtle
DW vs Crane------------------Crane
Ultimate vs Chef-------------Ultimate
Ultimate vs Plasma-----------Ultimate
Ultimate vs Karma------------Ultimate
Ultimate vs Fighter----------Fighter
Ultimate vs Sword------------Sword
Ultimate vs Turtle-----------Turtle
Ultimate vs Crane------------Crane (Ultimate can remove Burn, but i'm not sure that can win a crane
Chef vs Plasma---------------Plasma (i think that the difference with the Ultimate battle is that U has more E.Def and LP%)
Chef vs Karma----------------Karma
Chef vs Fighter--------------Fighter
Chef vs Sword----------------Sword
Chef vs Turtle---------------Turtle
Chef vs Crane----------------Crane
Plasma vs Karma--------------Karma
Plasma vs Fighter------------Fighter
Plasma vs Sword--------------Sword
Plasma vs Turtle-------------Turtle
Plasma vs Crane--------------Plasma
Karma vs Fighter-------------Karma
Karma vs Sword---------------Karma
Karma vs Turtle--------------Karma
Karma vs Crane---------------Karma
Fighter vs Sword-------------Sword (All +15 I think that the Sword can be better)
Fighter vs Turtle------------Turtle
Fighter vs Crane-------------Fighter
Sword vs Turtle--------------Sword
Sword vs Crane---------------Sword
Turtle vs Crane--------------Crane
With the perfect Combination i think that:
1º Sword 9
2º Turtle/Karma 8
3º Fighter/SK/Crane 7
4º Dende 6
5º Ultimate 5
6º Poko 4
7º Plasma/DW 2
8º Chef 1
Usually the problem is the clasification xDD and then the ranks of OP is:
1ºKarma
2ºTurtle
3ºSK/Fighter
4ºSword
(This is the usual Ranking of Class)
Without good gear i think that
1º SK
2º Fighter
3º Sword
4º Turtle
Really Plasma in 1vs1 are weak, but in 5vs5 are a very important member of the party
Sorry, my english is shit xDD
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Well, your not wrong but, in what cap are we talking about?
70 cap, fighters and SKs were the best
Dende was unbeatable in 60 cap along with Ultimates. They were un-killable. I was able to kill Hoot back in the day with lucky crits and KDs which were never likely.
Cranes fucked shit up
55 Cap. Swordsman and Karmas destroyed everyone.
50 cap. Dark warriors were beast with Hellzone with Karmas.
Overall, The best classes were SK and Fighters because they had the best skills. I would list it like this. Since i PVP'd in all Level Caps.
1 - SK
2 - Karma
3 - Cranes
4 - Turtle
5 - Ultima
6 - Dende
7 - Fighters
8 - swordsmen
9 - Poko
10 - Dark Warrior
11 - Chef
12 - Plasma
People will be like. Why fighters at number 7? Well if you paid attention to the Budokai boards then you will see that not many fighters won budokai. Throughout the whole game.
More SKs, Cranes, Turtles, Ultimas won.
Last edited on November 16th, 2013 at 03:09 PM.
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I'm talking about the end of the game, Final Cap. lvl70 xDD.
I remember a Turtle Male win Solo Budokai at 60cap. xDD
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I liked 2 SKs, 1 fighter, 1 turtle and 1 plasma.
Healer was useless after the scouter update. They were just 1 shots who were an easy target.
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after scouter update support classes still important in party, but in a resistance and damage party, not a damage and neutralization party like yours, its different strategies xD
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LMAO what class are you, and seriously needles = Fighters' most op moves, needle me in the ass? Naw im a level 70, wanna see my gear >:)
I bet this will be your move...
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Who were you in DBO? Sorry I forgot lol.
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LMAO what class are you, and seriously needles = Fighters' most op moves, needle me in the ass? Naw im a level 70, wanna see my gear >:)
I bet this will be your move...
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U weren't 70. You were like in ur 50-55s.
@Image lol
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Im still needling him in the arse
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