Of course you can say it could fit in with the canon (if you couldn't we wouldn't even be talking right now); but it's not canon, it will never be canon (with the information we have), and it should'nt be taken seriously or even be brought up in a discussion about the canon.


They don't need to disprove it though for it to become a completely meaningless idea. The only reason you'd ever want an answer here is to figure out whether or not Goku should be dead in DBO (by means other than something like time travel). If they just simply state that he's dead then we've got our answer. Even if they don't tell us the circumstances of his death, making the idea of him living for 1000 years still possible, who really cares what could've happened. If he does turn out to be alive (again without something like time travel) then I can only assume they'd also give us a reason.

This is just about over actually.

Sorry, but the only thing I got from any of this is that you're trying to act like your opinion is fact, again.

I agree that the idea is not canon, and I never refuted that, and it was never the point of my argument, and I never acted like it was. I even said so myself in the post of mine that you quoted. But it is as much of a logical outcome as nothing else happening, and should be considered a candidate for being a part of the canon as much as nothing else happening should be.

Also, you can't say that it will never be canon for the same reason why I can't say that it will ever be canon. With the information that we have, we can't say for sure either way.

Like I mentioned above, you're just acting like your opinion is fact again. So like I said before, feel free to cut the hypocritical bullcrap.


The real discussion was over awhile ago, actually.

We already established awhile ago that we can't say for sure if Goku got nothing other than life, or if he got a thousand years. We also established that the only thing we can say for sure, the only thing that is known to be canon, is that the Old Kai gave Goku life, which ended up with the Old Kai dieing and Goku living. We don't know what happens after that, or if anything else even happened as a result.

The only thing we've been doing since then is arguing semantics, and about how ridiculous each of our opinions are.

I have a suggestion, why don't we all just agree that an opinion is an opinon, and no one can prove anything? And then wait until Dragon Ball Online officially proves one of us wrong?

I mean, we've pretty much stated everything that's going for it. I've actually gone through some of Kanzentai's Daizenshuu translations to see if there was something on this, but I haven't found any yet.

That's fine with me, as long as a certain someone stops acting like their own opinion is a state of fact, and said person stops trying to do so for the purposes of furthering their own personal agenda in this discussion to prove points that are not only hypocritical, but unfounded and unsubstantiated as well.


That's part of what I'm saying. Even with everything we've stated regarding this subject (which is just about everything), there just isn't enough info about this to make an accurate decision one way or another on Goku getting a thousand years, or nothing else but life. But someone here is trying to make one anyway, based on nothing more than their own pseudo logic.

i say goku is dead :)

This is the thread that never end,
It just goes on and on my friends,
some people, started arguing not knowing when to end,
and they'll continue arguing together just because,
[repeat]

necause we are egotistical maniancs who believe it is dishonourable and idiotic to let the other person believe they are right?

I might as well repeat myself again as that's all I've been doing for the past couple posts. If you haven't gotten it yet then you probably never will, but I still have hope! For the record, my argument is:


Even though I've tried to make it clear and have had to repeat it more times than I can even remember you still seem to think I'm arguing for some opinion that I don't have. Not only have I clearly stated that I don't have it, but I've also proven logically that I can't have the opinion as it would contradict my argument.

It seems like this is all that's keeping us from reaching a conclusion. You don't seem to have a problem when I say your idea is only an opinion or when I say it should be completely separate from the canon, but then when I say your idea should not be taken seriously with respect to the canon you do have a problem because you seem to think that I'm saying another opinion should be held higher than yours. This is not the case at all.

I don't think there's really anything else to say, but if you do want to continue this I'll need you to admit that I'm not saying or even hinting at "nothing happened" (and I don't want some "if you say so" response either). If you can't do that then please don't respond at all.