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I'd like for you to point out at what point in this part of the post I said that it was your argument that Goku got nothing over than life...
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Here's a quote from the previous posts you made (In response to Kiyza) in which you still clearly think that I'm somehow saying Goku gets nothing is a better idea than Goku getting 1000 years:
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there just isn't enough info about this to make an accurate decision one way or another on Goku getting a thousand years, or nothing else but life. But someone here is trying to make one anyway, based on nothing more than their own pseudo logic.
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Unless, of course, the "someone" isn't me.
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if you're trying to pull some reverse psychology thing on me where you say you don't want me to do something, but really, you do?
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No, I just don't like to repeat myself and you've been consistently using this argument that I'm not actually making as an argument against me by saying I'm contradicting myself or being illogical.
I agree that if I was trying to make that argument along with my real argument it would be illogical and contradicting, but I'm not making that argument. I think the only time I even brought up the possibility of Goku getting nothing was at the very beginning and since then the only person who's been talking about it is you.
You also keep mentioning something about opinions, but you never really go into detail on what those opinions are. As my argument is completely void of any opinions I may or may not have could you elaborate on that a bit if the following doesn't clear anything up.
The following facts are pretty much what my entire argument is.
1. It's a fact that your idea is not canon. (you agree with this)
2. It's a fact that when discussing canon you should keep non-canon ideas completely out of it. (you also agree with this)
3. It's a fact that, because non-canon ideas will never be canon with the information we currently have, any non-canon idea that could possibly fit in with the canon simply because it doesn't contradict it should still not be taken seriously when discussing canon. (for whatever reason you don't agree with this even though it's just a more in depth version of the second fact which you do agree with)
They shouldn't be taken seriously because there are a literally infinite number ideas that meet this same exact criteria (in which the criteria is not contradicting the canon). If you take any 1 of these ideas seriously you must be willing to take all of them seriously. If you want to pick just 1 idea out of the infinite pool of ideas and say that the 1 has more worth than the others then it's called
special pleading. You can also rewrite that 3rd fact as:
3. It's a fact that when discussing canon you should keep non-canon ideas completely out of it even if it's possible that the idea could fit in with the canon simply because it does not contradict the canon.
I didn't include the part about "The idea that a non-canon idea will never be canon with the information we have" in there as it's just common sense really. If this wasn't true then it wouldn't be a non-canon idea.
Just for clarity, when i say "the information" I mean all of the canon excluding DBO (as we don't have any information from DBO regarding this and what we do have is just translations made by fans who used Google).
If we get more information in the future then there is always the possibility it will become canon as it does not currently contradict it (although a contradicting idea can technically become canon as well if Toriyama screws up), but with the information we have now the idea will never become canon because all it has going for it is that it doesn't contradict the canon (there is no information supporting it).
This is a discussion that you have no real involvement in and could easily ignore. What do you care if we keep going just to clean up some misunderstandings.
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