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February 4th, 2013
i can assume if dende won that Anti crit , has more effectif now , @Scranch did u try with 40% anti crit ? hard to get crited , easy ?? idk answer us
February 4th, 2013
i can assume if dende won that Anti crit , has more effectif now , @Scranch did u try with 40% anti crit ? hard to get crited , easy ?? idk answer us

Question should be like this:
Can i be still immune to crit or no ? answer yes = balance OK
answer NO: Question2:
Crit formula was changed ? answer yes = balance maybe OK
answer no: Question3:
Basic DMG from skill was changed ? answer yes = balance maybe OK
answer no: balance still suck

Answer this question please so we can know if balance suck or no.
Dont give me more examples like "dende win budokai" i dont care about korean they have weird mind and play style.
February 4th, 2013
I can't show you guys caps on stuff that isn't visible to the eye, seing as there isn't any way to show it, same way with LP% absorb. You can have say 70% on stat-wise, but only the 60% will have an effect without telling you that the recess 10% doesn't give jack. Or take anti-crit forexample: There isn't a direct cap, but now you just can't get it to 100% like you used to be able to. As far as SK's go (due to their buff) -the max anti-crit now would be with a perfect stat anti-crit jacket + the SK buff and those gloves on top of it. Pretty much the only thing you guys on TW and HK needs to have in mind are the fact that you can't use any chips on the new scouters, and therefore have to minus that from your current stats, be it anti-crit %, energy reflect, Lp etc etc.

Yeah Kagoto, I tried having my 30% anti-crit jacket + the 25% buff on after this update which gave me 55% anti-crit in total, and as the % says, I got critted nearly half of the attacks from the Figther and SM I tested it with = You have around 40-50% chance to get critted, depending on whether or not your an SK with the buff, got those anti-crit gloves and if your anti-crit jacket is of perfect stat or close to it.
I personally think that the last tourney results (after the new update) -even without any photographically evidences prooves it all. Dende won, Poko on the second place and crane on third, followed by Karma's, SK's, Figther's, SM's etc on 4th places. Before that update, SK's won the majority of times. What more do you like to know? :-)
February 4th, 2013
Question should be like this:
Can i be still immune to crit or no ? answer yes = balance OK
answer NO: Question2:
Crit formula was changed ? answer yes = balance maybe OK
answer no: Question3:
Basic DMG from skill was changed ? answer yes = balance maybe OK
answer no: balance still suck

Answer this question please so we can know if balance suck or no.
Dont give me more examples like "dende win budokai" i dont care about korean they have weird mind and play style.

koreans have same mind as every other human. balance no suck
February 4th, 2013
@Scrancher
Staph troling, i can prove %LP is capped at 60%
all changes are visible for eye, if for you 30k crit from fighter isnt visible you are just blind.

40~50% chance to get crited... dende needs 15k+ LP, full props and 7k def to survive 1 crit from ticket pole.

Dende wining on KR server isnt any prove, luck, let him win, 0 fight vs good MA -> thats why he won.
Any dende havent chance to win vs fighter who use %crit stuffs and just ticket pole.

@maluriddle
yes balance suck, fighter 1 shoting half of classes by crit... ( prove if i am wrong, give me screen of DMG dex fighter with 2x 30~33% crit items and 70+12 pole to strongest guy as u can find )
February 4th, 2013
ther was a good fighter in Kr , Crited my dende 67k dmg , i had 3k m def on and 40% prop most likely the balance are all same exept kr Lp% dont work vs MA so any class will use Foc/Con/dex better for them , it was good

but now is too much as Kr themselves dont like this update , it broked the balance , but im expectin more updates soon , like nerfin Crits and changin the formula again
February 4th, 2013
Woh woh cowboy, slow down. So many negative vibes coming from you nady93, and I don't think I like it.
Now, what is it you don't get?..

Can you still be immune to crit?
Nope, you can not. 10% anti-crit glove + what, 39% anti-crit jacket max + 25% buff if your an SK and 5% anti-crit title (not sure if there's dogi stat ball effects with anti-crit) -states that you can have a maximum of around 80% anti-crit IF your an SK, and around 55% anti-crit for all others.

Has Crit formula changed?
I don't even know where you got this idea from... If you atually read and understood what I've bin writing you would notice that nothing BUT the removal of ALL chips have been changed..... So no, ofcourse crit formula haven't been changed even 1 bit, you just tend to crit more often obiviously because you can't be immune to crits anymore.

And no.. nothing else have changed.

By visible I mean that there's nowhere anything stating nor showing that 60% LP absorb stat is the max in-game, we only know cause it was stated from the publishers and the actual game developer, so *buzz* your wrong here aswell.

Anything else we need to clear out of the way now that we so ''gently'' opened this discussion?

Last edited on February 4th, 2013 at 01:13 PM.
February 4th, 2013
Balance is same in TW/KR ( except scouters atm ), Korean players just dont like SKs becouse he have slow animations, they prefer fast fighter/sword moves. There is no OP and smart SK in KR.
Its not about balance, its same, just korean dont using SKs.

BTW
How dende won budokai lol, ur players are really weak or this dende had +15 defences or just had luck and fought vs weak noobs.
I with full props and 5k m.def getting crit 30k from 70+12 fighter pole so, even if i improve a bit props and get over 6k def but still ill be 1 shot by random fighter with +12 ticket pole.
This "balance" is cruel joke for dragon clans/wonders/spiritualist. <- Owned by MA <- Owned by SKs/maybe mightmajin with reflect



lOL KR players are over powered .......And Dende won turney cuz we have BALANCE .anyone can win turney and we dont want to lose our time explaining pointless things to this forums . .Just beleive what you want . And DONT talk if you dont know.
February 4th, 2013
Well, I don't wanna start a fight here, but no way I'd loose to a no anti crit equiped dende... damn, no chance in hell. I find it very weird that the last champion there was a dende. Are you sure crit didn't get nerfed ? Either he didn't fought a decent equipped MA, or crit got nerfed as well.. or he got lucky.. Speaking for myself I can get up to 90 of critical rate, no 54% dende ( assuming Title, staff, and 39% jacket ) would've survived.

Another thing I'd really like to see on 5vs5 works now, I guess revive all party popo's price will suffer a price increase ^^
February 4th, 2013
Woh woh cowboy, slow down. So many negative vibes coming from you nady93, and I don't think I like it.
Now, what is it you don't get?..

Can you still be immune to crit?
Nope, you can not. 10% anti-crit glove + what, 33% anti-crit jacket max + 25% buff if your an SK and 5% anti-crit title (not sure if there's dogi stat ball effects with anti-crit) -states that you can have a maximum of around 73% anti-crit IF your an SK, and around 50% anti-crit for all others.

Has Crit formula changed?
I don't even know where you got this idea from... If you atually read and understood what I've bin writing you would notice that nothing BUT the removal of ALL chips have been changed..... So no, ofcourse crit formula haven't been changed even 1 bit, you just tend to crit more often obiviously because you can't be immune to crits anymore.

And no.. nothing else have changed.

By visible I mean, there's Nowhere anything stating or showing that 60% LP absorb stat is the max in-game, we only know cause it was stated from the publishers and the actual game developer, so *buzz* your wrong here aswell.

Anything else we need to clear out of the way now that we so ''gently'' opened this discussion?

Awesome Leadaaaaaaaaaaaa . Calm down lol . Lemme handle this :l

Well, I don't wanna start a fight here, but no way I'd loose to a no anti crit equiped dende... damn, no chance in hell. I find it very weird that the last champion there was a dende. Are you sure crit didn't get nerfed ? Either he didn't fought a decent equipped MA, or crit got nerfed as well.. or he got lucky.. Speaking for myself I can get up to 90 of critical rate, no 54% dende ( assuming Title, staff, and 39% jacket ) would've survived.

Another thing I'd really like to see on 5vs5 works now, I guess revive all party popo's price will suffer a price increase ^^

As i said in my to my other post . Dende won just becuz he was good . Theres balance so everyone can win . All classses won the turney many times .


Oh and beleive me . There SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many SK's in KR there good . But there no gods which rue at everything and at needed for everything...

Last edited on February 4th, 2013 at 01:14 PM. Reason: Double Post