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Poll Results: Do you agree
Yes 30 75.00%
No 10 25.00%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll.

October 21st, 2013
#51
I was going to make a comment earlier but Zellion got here before me.
October 21st, 2013
#52
not everyone likes him.

Did you actually think I was serious? IK tons of people who don't like Jocer, I'm basically saying most people like him.
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October 21st, 2013
#53
Change can be good, but isn't always necessary...

Changes aren't critcal at the moment. But may (not will) help the forum...

At best we could just reduce the mods and people should make more of an effort to contibute to the forums popularity.
October 21st, 2013
#54
In the end of the day it is Citrinate's site he has control over who moderates the forum or not. He has changed a lot for the sites members. He made the infractions system so that people would actually be given a reason why the got a warning or an infraction, before it was just delete the post without any major reasons.

The members shouldn't vote on who becomes moderator or not in my opinion because it would just be based on who is popular or not.

For example, Mr X ran to be a moderator vs me. I know Mr X is more well known than me in DBO/DBOCOM at this moment in time because he still is playing DBO and is very active on the forums, whereas I am not(lurking in the shadows). Mr X would win the election due to his FRIENDS voting for him, not on who is the more capable at the job or not.

The capability criteria when I had been picked by Citrinate nearly 2 years ago was based on:
Has the person ever been banned, has the person flamed/broken the rules several times before, even after being notified about the forum rules. Does the person report posts that conflict with the forum rules or not.

So how can a normal member who does not see the moderator forum assess if Mr X is viable to become a moderator or not?? Despite Mr X having a bad reputation in breaking the rules. How would a normal member of this

Ok now to the next part.
If the current moderators are capable or not. I can say some of them are and some of them used to be. Some are just busy with real life things(me). Also we don't need anymore moderators as the workload isn't even much compared to when we had only 2-3 moderators who frequently were online and who moderated the site during DBO's peak activity.

This in a nutshell. If it was a voting system it would just be a popularity contest since only existing moderators can see how active a moderator is.

If we allowed a voting system we would just end up with guilds voting for their most popular member and end up with a site of mods who can't stand each other. Nothing would get done and said mods would do everything in their power to attack members from rival guilds.

The current mod selection process is the best. Citrinate posts all the applications on the mod boards and the current mods review all the applicants and name multiple names they would like to see for moderator. They base these decisions on how efficiently they use the report system correctly. Next we look at activity, someone who isn't on often doesn't have a real shot at moderator.

After about a week or 2 and most moderators have posted. Citrinate reviews our selections and makes his decisions.
October 21st, 2013
#55
I feel like the mods are going against it because it is jeopardizing their job and position on the site.

The Poll shows it all. More than double the people want change of the site and agree with what i said and what i want to implement.

The only PMs I respond to concerning infractions are those where I'm convinced the person has no idea why their actions have broken any rules, or if the infraction is reversed.

Just my theory but, i doubt you seriously do. I can name 10-15 people including myself that could tell you that they have message you plenty of times to justify an infraction that should be reversed and it was just ignored.

The members shouldn't vote on who becomes moderator or not in my opinion because it would just be based on who is popular or not.

It already is. If you aren't popular or known you dont get the mod position anyway. There is no absoulte way to tell if they will do a good job or not..So why not use this system and give people a chance.
October 21st, 2013
#56
I feel like the mods are going against it because it is jeopardizing their job and position on the site.

The Poll shows it all. More than double the people want change of the site and agree with what i said and what i want to implement.



Just my theory but, i doubt you seriously do. I can name 10-15 people including myself that could tell you that they have message you plenty of times to justify an infraction that should be reversed and it was just ignored.



It already is. If you aren't popular or known you dont get the mod position anyway. There is no absoulte way to tell if they will do a good job or not..So why not use this system and give people a chance.

So citrinate clearly explains why he ignores certain peoples pm's for ignoring certain points and constantly reask the same question. so you reask your question again and ignore all his points. really not hard to see why he is ignoring your PM's.

glad I can help solve that for you.
October 21st, 2013
#57
So citrinate clearly explains why he ignores certain peoples pm's for ignoring certain points and constantly reask the same question. so you reask your question again and ignore all his points. really not hard to see why he is ignoring your PM's.

glad I can help solve that for you.

The only thing I will say, since dbo's been announced closing, I've gotten replies back from Cit faster then ever.

I've received a name change, fixed several bugs I was experiencing.
October 22nd, 2013
#58
I voted yes because i think the site should develop . This site was livly but once they announce that DBO is shutting down ppl started leaving and i don't won't this site to close after 31st

About the mods, I'm only here from 3-4 months so I doubt I even meet all of them, so if we can vote for mods I'll leave this to guys who spent more time here .
October 22nd, 2013
#59
If even Citrinate votes for "Yes" then there's nothing really much to talk about.

I personally understand what Jocer talking about when he mentioned "Corrupt moderators" but I can't name any.. wonder why. whatever

@Jaxill : There won't be guild rivals because the game is closing, so no more new screenshots etc etc threads, everyone here will be just dbocom members, nothing more.
October 22nd, 2013
#60
ok im going to close this thread now as its all been discussed.

Id like to thank all users who had good valid points in this discussion as WE DO want the best for this site and all of us members. We will be looking over some of the rules such as Off topic which was the main one here as once the game closes Everything will change and we would like to stick together here.we have acomplished something here and in future i would like to see more imput from all members as long as its constructive on how to improve the overall site. There is no need for more Mods currently although Cit will have the final word on that. If the site improves or some of the active Mods leave their position then it will become available. the Mod position will NOT be a popularity contest so only those who Report posts (which no body does ATM so start Reporting posts if the Thread or posts are against the rules ) and are a happy, helpful member of the community who we feel will benefit the Mod team .
If anyone would like to see this thread open again then please mail me with a good reason that hasnt already been discussed and i will glady do so

thank you

Last edited on October 22nd, 2013 at 05:41 AM.