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November 23rd, 2010
#81
I just wanted to get to the issues posted up on the forum so that it doesnt drag on XD
lol i'm not trying to put this on you can i hope u understand..

and well i didn't want to talk about the zolo attacking you guys incident because i wasn't there to witness what was going on..

that's the reason i left it all out :)


where as i was actually there with the beach incident~
November 23rd, 2010
#82
I just wanted to get to the issues posted up on the forum so that it doesnt drag on XD
lol i'm not trying to put this on you can i hope u understand..

and well i didn't want to talk about the zolo attacking you guys incident because i wasn't there to witness what was going on..

that's the reason i left it all out :)


where as i was actually there with the beach incident~

ok i understand but i dont think you understand some of the games he plays.
November 23rd, 2010
#83
ok i understand but i dont think you understand some of the games he plays.

true.. but at the same... that's non of our business i guess lol
November 23rd, 2010
#84
true.. but at the same... that's non of our business i guess lol

you would have a different point of view if he was attacking your guild mates.
November 23rd, 2010
#85
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Ok first of all i would like to clear everything so that no one has this blurred idea about all of this.

First of all.. I consider Zolo as my friend and also Cane to be my friend.
So I would like everybody to know that I'm not taking sides here, but this blog seemed really unfair to Zolo..

1st i'm not going to talk about zolo bothering the saints, since i wasn't there and that's non of my business..

2nd.. the beach event happened a long time ago.. more than a month ago.. so i think everyone needs to get over it..

3rd i trusted you guys (saints guys) to be better than this, but come on guys..

Bringing stuff up from the past.. and accusing Zolo of sending Koreans after you guys without a single proof isn't nice.

First of all let's get through with the beach event.

Yes you've got it on screenshots and i don't lie about something small as this..

Zolo did pm me saying
Zolo - "tell all koreans to kill all saints members on sight at the arena"
BUT after i type that to you guys on the screenshots above..
I also remember saying following from that
(my self) Eversimple - "But I took it as a joke and it won't happen"
Those are the EXACT words i've told you guys..

And still when you guys reacted by saying
Saints Guild members - "But he wasn't"
(he as in Zolo) wasn't joking..
When you guys have said that..
I immediately confronted Zolo saying to Zolo..

Eversimple - " Zolo i hope you were joking about you telling me to tell the koreans to kill all saints guild members"
"because that's not going to happen"
And Zolo's reply was!!!
Zolo - "Yeah I know man i was joking XD"

Unfortunately i don't take much screenshots so i can't show it to you guys..

But Zolo never sent any koreans after you and neither did I.

And Will51 I know that you're a nice guy.. but please don't say that you saw Zolo telling koreans to kill saints.
You guys only know about zolo telling me to do it..
And I was sure we talked through that issue..
I took it as a joke and I assured you guys that we won't be sending anyone after you guys..


If there are Koreans after you guys.. it's not us

They are probably just killing foreigners for fun OR they've had some problems with your guild members.
Those are the only two reasons that I can think of on why Koreans might be after you guys.

And guys.. plz don't post these kind of crap up for everyone to see..

This is just an issue between Zolo and a couple of people and I don't think the whole world needs to know what's going on..

But that's just my opinion..

Haha man don't worry the only reason I brought those pictures up is because I wanted to show that Zolo has asked someone who can get Koreans to kill our characters on sight to do so. You state that Zolo was kidding and thats what he said to you, and I totally believe you that you never wanted to get the Koreans on our arse. Zolo, however attacked Will and them so he still obviously wanted to "kill" us. For whatever reason it was it persisted from most likely back then.
November 23rd, 2010
#86
you would have a different point of view if he was attacking your guild mates.

yes it could be true that i have a different point of view, since i'm trying to see it from both sides or maybe from a neutral side..

but at the same.... that has nothing to do with which other game he plays XD

Haha man don't worry the only reason I brought those pictures up is because I wanted to show that Zolo has asked someone who can get Koreans to kill our characters on sight to do so. You state that Zolo was kidding and thats what he said to you, and I totally believe you that you never wanted to get the Koreans on our arse. Zolo, however attacked Will and them so he still obviously wanted to "kill" us. For whatever reason it was it persisted from most likely back then.

i just think it's unfair for everyone to have a go at zolo everytime someone gets killed by a korean..

i mean has anyone even asked the koreans why they're killing foreigners?


I think it'd be great if some one can come up with a solid proof.. like a screen shot of a korean saying that he was sent by zolo would really help too..

but all i'm seeing is everyone just going after zolo without any hard evidence.

Yes well i believe zolo killed you yesterday or something i'm not exactly sure when..

but i wasn't there to know what exactly went down.. so i won't make much comments about it..

except for the fact that that still doesn't prove zolo sent koreans to kill you guys..



i mean why would zolo go there to kill you guys in person.. IF he could get koreans to do it for him?

and also.. why would koreans even listen to Zolo?

Last edited on November 23rd, 2010 at 08:33 PM. Reason: Double Post
November 23rd, 2010
#87
This make so much sense doesnt it?
November 23rd, 2010
#88
I say you guys cut to the chase and have an all out guild fight. Winner take all.
November 23rd, 2010
#89
I let this thread go on as I felt it had some purpose. I'm closing it now because it seems as if everything that was needed to be said has been.

In my opinion though, whether or not he actually got other people to go around killing foreigners is somewhat trivial if he's also doing it himself.

To the people saying it's just a risk you're taking when playing in the PvP channel or that it's just a game, the situation here is that 1 person is going out of their way to make it harder for another person(s) to enjoy the game which I've commented on before:

You simply cannot rationalize someone's selfish in-game actions by saying "it's just a game, get over it". We all play games for enjoyment and if someone goes out of their way to impede on your ability to enjoy the game then you have every right to be upset with that person.

Were that kind of reasoning valid it could be used to condone actions such as account theft, item scamming, in-game harassment, and just about everything else.

No one should have to tolerate these kinds of actions and, when both of the parties involved are members of this website, that includes me as well. I've had no problem in the past with permanently banning someone from this website who was doing this sort of thing when I thought the situation called for it; and if Zolo chooses to continue with all of this he should keep that in mind.

If I do end up having to ban him I think I should also say (given that he has let me used his account in the past and might have not changed the password since then) that I would never mess with someone's account or share their password for any reason. If he doesn't trust me then he should change his password if he hasn't already.

Last edited on November 23rd, 2010 at 09:43 PM.