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December 7th, 2012
#1
Please debate between the following transformation

Giant namek transformation (warriors and dragon clans)
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Kid buu transformation (wonder majins and mighty majins)
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Super saiyan transformation (Martial artists and spiritualists)
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I dont include kaioken since everyone has it.


My own input

Personally i think Giant namek is for me personally, one of the most effective transformations.
as a ShadowKnight i can manage to get the cooldown to this.

And with a 10 minute duration, the time i have to wait between transformations is merely 8 minutes.
The transformation is really good in PvE situations with a team for stuff like cell or bacterian.
I do realize its only good for SK if you have speed weapons and dogi hat.
Wich i do, so im using this transformation alot in PvE situations.
Its like a giant namekian using thunder, wich is just epic for tanking and killing cell/bacterian.

The plus side it has over SSJ and kid buu, is the huge defence and LP increase.
Combined that with seriously huge DPS (100% speed) its for me the most powerfull transformation.
Downside is the 8 minute waiting time ''between giant'' transformations, but thats not a issue for me.

The PvP aspect of this transformation is usefull too.
It can be used in 5v5 situation when your entire team is ... dead and you need to buy some time to resurect everyone.
Aswell it can be used to get rid of all de-buffs, to give you a small window of oportunity to get a advantage, other then this, it doesnt really gives a advantage for a SK.
December 7th, 2012
#2
"I do realize its only good for SK if you have speed weapons and dogi hat."

Wrong, it's way more deadly on healers.
December 7th, 2012
#3
"I do realize its only good for SK if you have speed weapons and dogi hat."

Wrong, it's way more deadly on healers.

Im talking for usefull PvE perspective, in wich healers gotta .. heal.
Dont forget SK defences and LP are alot higher then healers one, thus more suited for tanking, while going thunder mode.
Healers physical attack isnt that high, so the damage difference between SK giant mode speed and healer giant mode speed isnt so big, if at all.
December 7th, 2012
#4
Wait isn't cool down for giant namek 60 minutes?
December 7th, 2012
#5
u just never saw any atk speed healers, well they were only on hk after all.
December 7th, 2012
#6
Wait isn't cool down for giant namek 60 minutes?

Yes but you can get items that decrease CD...
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December 7th, 2012
#7
u just never saw any atk speed healers, well they were only on hk after all.

Im playing mainly with healers that have massive attack speed.
But im talking about being in transformation mode.

Last edited on December 7th, 2012 at 01:04 PM.
December 7th, 2012
#8
First of all, you forgot to mention the downside of the Great Namek skill, which is a great decrease in the dodge rate (Not that it matters that much, just a pointer) -Also, what the hell are staff slash :-s ? Is that a dende skill or?

PvE wise, I'd have to go with GN aswell, but ONLY for boss figths. As of why, simply because when transformed, your a big mean badass wall that takes alot to crack. The downside is that you would have to use and kinda waste SP's for making it usefull in PvP aswell as to slaugther the countless evil critter armies that lurks before the actual boss fight/s, which makes me say that Kid Buu suits that situation the best, seing as their AoE attacks are quite strong and the actual SP's used for them are well spent.
For PvP there's no doubt, Super Sayian takes the price, but suits Crit figthers and Swordsmen the best, simply due to the nice dodge rate increase.

Overall personal top 3:

1. Great Namek
2. Super Sayian
3. Kid Buu
December 7th, 2012
#9
Super Saiyan is defacto winner in my opinion. It's the most useful transformation. Kid Buu is just garbage without proper build. You have to be able to take a lot of damage.
December 7th, 2012
#10
First of all, you forgot to mention the downside of the Great Namek skill, which is a great decrease in the dodge rate (Not that it matters that much, just a pointer) -Also, what the hell are staff slash :-s ? Is that a dende skill or?

PvE wise, I'd have to go with GN aswell, but ONLY for boss figths. As of why, simply because when transformed, your a big mean badass wall that takes alot to crack. The downside is that you would have to use and kinda waste SP's for making it usefull in PvP aswell as to slaugther the countless evil critter armies that lurks before the actual boss fight/s, which makes me say that Kid Buu suits that situation the best, seing as their AoE attacks are quite strong and the actual SP's used for them are well spent.
For PvP there's no doubt, Super Sayian takes the price, but suits Crit figthers and Swordsmen the best, simply due to the nice dodge rate increase.

Overall personal top 3:

1. Great Namek
2. Super Sayian
3. Kid Buu

ya but with 100% speed giant namek ur DPS is insane on top of your crazy tanking abilities :P