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October 22nd, 2013
#1
I am going to address once and never again. This will prove anything and show everything.

1 - Do not lock this thread. The Site is inactive forum and we need as much discussion possible to make things better. If the thread is closed then it proves it all.

I am tired of things being pushed away by mods with closing a thread and running away from problems.

To clarify confusion on off topic infractions this is the current rule:

In a joking/casual thread if the thread starts going off topic and it is fine with the OP then anything off topic will be allowed. As long as it is okay with the OP and the post doesn't go extremely off topic then it will be allowed in these kinds of threads.

In a serious thread any off topic post will be deleted and given an infraction even if the OP was the one who made the off topic post.

Any thread without much of a topic to begin with will allow off topic posts as long as it doesn't break other rules.

How can anyone determine something joking or serious? Anyone can take any thread and interpret anyway they can. This is really irrelevant and a rule that needs to be changed. You need to get rid of this rule to be perfectly honest. Everyone has their own theories that something is relevant to the topic and wouldn't think it's irrelevant.
This basically means Mods are only their to give infractions? We are better off firing the mods and use an automatic keyword program that can do it for us. Instead mods should just remove the post, Stop being lazy. You wanted the job and the job comes with work and responsibilities so, stop taking the easy way out.

Songo OP!

This was written in my previous thread "A Change.". IT WAS THE 7TH post! The 7th! And almost every mod posted in that thread, why wasn't it addressed as Off-Topic? LAZINESS!!!!! Am i wrong or right? If they actually paid attention to the thread and read what everyone said then, his post would've been removed and/or infracted for it.
Songo is good friend and i'm not trying to put the spotlight on him but, its just something that needs to be addressed.


Moderators Conduct.
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Even though it's something on somebody's wall that can be moderated by the user, Is this a way a leader of a forum should act towards members? it's like you guys don't care if people leave or not. Is this not childish? the way you claim members are childish and cannot be taking serious?


Biased?

A Member named Simmy was recently banned because he made his avatar inappropriate. Cit quotes
"Used this pic as an avatar: http://imgur.com/9vZIn"

. Simmy was banned this morning.

However, A Mod named Keigo has an inappropriate singature that goes against the same rule. His profile is here http://dbocom.com/forum/member.php?u=9966. It shows a young girl ranging the age 10-14 is bent over with hers Ass and Vagina being revealed through the tight clothes. Is that that not the situation and why aren't both penalized for it?

Same with Songo, Keigo is my friend and a good guy. I am not trying to put you on the spotlight or get you in trouble. I am just trying to prove a point and get things done.

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A new Website has come up anyway. More game related threads, upcoming releases and they actually listen to their users with MODs who do fun activites in games. I will go there and be treated like everyone else.


Discuss~~

Last edited on October 22nd, 2013 at 08:41 PM.
October 22nd, 2013
#2
seems like Jaklt is a bias mod. I like all the points you proven. But, seems like that moderator is out to get you jocer. All fairness.. Jaklt if you're going to be bias against a member and use his name as an example in a negative way in your sentences. you should be revoked from your mod privileges. Im just being serious. Idk where our friendship stands. but, one way or another i have to be a realist right now

Last edited on October 22nd, 2013 at 08:36 PM.
October 22nd, 2013
#3
I am going to address once and never again. This will prove anything and show everything.

1 - Do not lock this thread. The Site is inactive forum and we need as much discussion possible to make things better. If the thread is closed then it proves it all.

I am tired of things being pushed away by mods with closing a thread and running away from problems.



How can anyone determine something joking or serious? Anyone can take any thread and interpret anyway they can. This is really irrelevant and a rule that needs to be changed. You need to get rid of this rule to be perfectly honest. Everyone has their own theories that something is relevant to the topic and wouldn't think it's irrelevant.
This basically means Mods are only their to give infractions? We are better off firing the mods and use an automatic keyword program that can do it for us. Instead mods should just remove the post, Stop being lazy. You wanted the job and the job comes with work and responsibilities so, stop taking the easy way out.


This was written in my previous thread "A Change.". IT WAS THE 7TH post! The 7th! And almost every mod posted in that thread, why wasn't it addressed as Off-Topic? LAZINESS!!!!! Am i wrong or right? If they actually paid attention to the thread and read what everyone said then, his post would've been removed and/or infracted for it.
Songo is good friend and i'm not trying to put the spotlight on him but, its just something that needs to be addressed.


Moderators Conduct.
Click here to see full text

Click here to see full text


Even though it's something on somebody's wall that can be moderated by the user, Is this a way a leader of a forum should act towards members? it's like you guys don't care if people leave or not. Is this not childish? the way you claim members are childish and cannot be taking serious?


Biased?

A Member named Simmy was recently banned because he made his avatar inappropriate. Cit quotes . Simmy was banned this morning.

However, A Mod named Keigo has an inappropriate singature that goes against the same rule. His profile is here http://dbocom.com/forum/member.php?u=9966. It shows a young girl ranging the age 10-14 is bent over with his Ass and Vagina being revealed through the tight clothes. Is that that not the situation and why aren't both penalized for it?

Same with Songo, Keigo is my friend and a good guy. I am not trying to put you on the spotlight or get you in trouble. I am just trying to prove a point and get things done.

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A new Website has come up anyway. More game related threads, upcoming releases and they actually listen to their users with MODs who do fun activites in games. I will go there and be treated like everyone else.


Discuss~~

I think I laugh to hard at that Avatar pic simmy picked anyways. I'll explain to you why his avatar was different from the mod sig.

The Mod sig is an anime pic as for the pic simmy pick it was real life. It was a picture of a dude dick photoshop to Will smith head. This isn't my logic It is whom ever make the rules. The logic is Anime stuff is ok but Real life stuff isn't.

My logic is different from that but like I said it is whom ever make the rules.

As for the rest of the Post you made I can't really comment since I don't know the extent of every stuation.

I only know the screenshot you posted the 2nd one.

Where JakLT said something rude, Which he said it to me. Which he had every right to because I was angry and pissed off and rage at him.
Though I found out what really happened and apologizes. Wither he handle my raging in a immature way is up to you. In my eyes It was natural he would rage back. Cause Mod = human to.

Lastly I agree with what you point out. "How can you tell when someone is joking, It is up to the reader to interpret what they read"

I remember making a post on MV Thread saying you will be remember MajinVagina a good honest joke friendly joke without any hate intended. They understood and I even got a "Thanks" for the post with the quote. "Thanks man good luck for the future". Mod read that and thought it was flaming so got I infracted for flaming. Which is understandable so I didn't complain I just sent a angry rant at the infraction pm. Without trying to prove my innocence instead trying to pity them for misunderstanding it.
October 22nd, 2013
#4
1 - Simmy's picture isn't real either.
2 - Their is an unwritten rule where all infractions are suppose to be anonymous and He clearly stated who said gave it.
October 22nd, 2013
#5
1 - Simmy's picture isn't real either.
2 - Their is an unwritten rule where all infractions are suppose to be anonymous and He clearly stated who said gave it.

So A lot of mod do that LOL. Also If he didn't say something along those line then I would have still suspected him.

Because he was the last person who posted or that what it look like. But the one who infract me deleted jaxlt post so it look like he told me to stop posting. "Stop it you two"

So Shit like this cause misunderstanding. Though because it help me by clearing the confusion.

One logic I don't understand is when something happened they say Go complain to cit. But It is their job to help cit out with the stress of having to manage this community. So can't the mod resolve shit by themselve?

-note everytime I mention Mod, I'm not saying every mod. Just the one that does what they do in the situation that it happens in.-

Lastly: Dude you can't tell me that don't look like a real dick. The top part lol.

P.S sorry for the piss poor english I'm tired atm.
October 22nd, 2013
#6
^ Yep, Some mods are corrupted not all. But, there is proof .. some mods do think they're better then members. but, i don't want to post it because it will cause controversy

Last edited on October 22nd, 2013 at 09:17 PM.
October 22nd, 2013
#7
seems like Jaklt is a bias mod. I like all the points you proven. But, seems like that moderator is out to get you jocer. All fairness.. Jaklt if you're going to be bias against a member and use his name as an example in a negative way in your sentences. you should be revoked from your mod privileges. Im just being serious. Idk where our friendship stands. but, one way or another i have to be a realist right now

It actually reminds me of how, a while back on this forum, there was a poster who called himself Pein. Pein was a troll, through and through. He worked his way up to a permanent ban over time pretty easily. That said, he did contribute a lot to this forum and was helpful at times. He just posted two pieces of shit for every helpful, meaningful post he gave. Hell, even though I was a mod at the time and deleted his posts and gave him infractions, we were still friends outside of it all. I enjoyed his sense of humor at times, but it went outside of what's considered acceptable forum conduct. His name was used in the same sort of context.

Now, by no means is Jocer like that. He's much more consistent about being helpful than Pein ever was, but he does admittedly give us moderators a hard time on occasion. I'm neutral toward him -- I wouldn't consider him a friend outside of my site duties and it wouldn't make a difference if I did -- but you have to understand that moderators who've pruned his posts do have reason view him in a negative light.

That all said and done, it doesn't excuse Jak's conduct when talking to darkkingdom. At all. To be honest, I've largely been abrasive toward the forum is run now with regards to infractions and how it treats a lot of posts. The moderators discussed off-topic posting at length earlier today -- myself included -- and it was agreed upon that there needed to be change about how it was treated. My personal suggestion was to only penalize off-topic discussion that was banter, spam, or people going into a random thread and posting something that's not even remotely related. I don't agree with the new rule as it stands and I think it needs to be revised to better suit those sorts of criteria. Subjectivity and opinions are things that rules should try to avoid -- they should be as concrete as possible to avoid interpretations no one intended. I think the way most treat off-topic posts these days is like that, as it originally pertained mainly to things that were seriously off-topic.

I've been behind the scenes here for a good while. I know why we're at the point we're at now and I've certainly noticed its steady evolution (and the reasons behind said evolution) into what the way we treat infraction and rule-breaking nowadays. I've even mentioned my observations before to the other moderators and was promptly brushed off with others saying that things were fine the way they were. If I can't convince others come to a consensus, then I have no real authority. I don't control how this board is run and I don't think the way things are now is the answer. However, I don't think Jocer's suggestions about democracy are the answer either. The issue, at its crux, is with the wishy-washy interpretation of the rules and how easy it is to deliver consequences.
October 22nd, 2013
#8
I don't believe it's a matter of corruptness, usually that would imply, they were doing it for personal gain, or they were bribed somehow to abuse the power they hold.


All i see it as, some mods are more prone to moderating with their emotions, Rage/Hatred/Favoritism etc then any other.
October 22nd, 2013
#9
Hmm. I actualy read the whole thing... Can't belive I'm saying this, but you do have some points.

No matter how annoying a person(s) is on the forums, a mod is suposed to treat all members the same and act objectively to all their actions.

If this is the case with one of the mods, they should be reprimanded accordingly.

As for the Simmmy situation. Thats a no-brainer. He has a picture of a visable part of a males gentailer, so his going to be banned. Thats idiotic (though funny) on his half..

Keigo's on the other hand is diffrent. His avatar is more suggestive if anything else. Younger members may night understand it or see it in the context it's been shown. (still a creepy avatar though)


-Edit-

I was actualy going to use the Kizya and Pein situation as an example.. (beat me to it.)

That is how a mod is suposed to act towards a memeber who isn't acting correctly on a forum.

Last edited on October 22nd, 2013 at 09:30 PM.
October 22nd, 2013
#10
Keigo's on the other hand is diffrent. His avatar is more suggestive if anything else. Younger members may night understand it or see it in the context it's been shown. (still a creepy avatar though)

He was more talking about the signature.