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Poll Results: Do you agree

Yes	30	75.00%

No	10	25.00%

Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll.

151

KushedOUTSaiyan

<DragonBall>

October 21st, 2013

#41

I agree about infractions. I got an infraction, or an infraction warning(?) for asking to be more involved with DBOPS, and it was right after I got done praising this forum and Cit for all they've done. Seemed kinda douschey after supporting this site for so many years... But I don't like to judge, I don't know what sort of things are going on in other peoples lives. I still support this site and the idea of DBOPS. Peace, love, and Goku ;)

1232

darkingdom

October 21st, 2013

#42

ishali

In the end of the day it is Citrinate's site he has control over who moderates the forum or not. He has changed a lot for the sites members. He made the infractions system so that people would actually be given a reason why the got a warning or an infraction, before it was just delete the post without any major reasons.

The members shouldn't vote on who becomes moderator or not in my opinion because it would just be based on who is popular or not.

For example, Mr X ran to be a moderator vs me. I know Mr X is more well known than me in DBO/DBOCOM at this moment in time because he still is playing DBO and is very active on the forums, whereas I am not(lurking in the shadows). Mr X would win the election due to his FRIENDS voting for him, not on who is the more capable at the job or not.

The capability criteria when I had been picked by Citrinate nearly 2 years ago was based on:
Has the person ever been banned, has the person flamed/broken the rules several times before, even after being notified about the forum rules. Does the person report posts that conflict with the forum rules or not.

So how can a normal member who does not see the moderator forum assess if Mr X is viable to become a moderator or not?? Despite Mr X having a bad reputation in breaking the rules. How would a normal member of this

Ok now to the next part.
If the current moderators are capable or not. I can say some of them are and some of them used to be. Some are just busy with real life things(me). Also we don't need anymore moderators as the workload isn't even much compared to when we had only 2-3 moderators who frequently were online and who moderated the site during DBO's peak activity.

I agree with ishali I was going to say this myself but I had to sleep lol.

anyways Like he said I don't want this Voting normal member for Mod System.

I'm here typing cause I feel some of the rules need to be changed. More loose like a woman legs. Joke aside I only comment on the thread to show that it isn't just few member that feel that way i do but a lot.

So something has to be changed.

Either way I enjoy the maturity in this thread.

See you guys are well capable of talking calmly with each other without outright flaming.

100

JuniorMaster

<Royalty>

October 21st, 2013

#43

darkingdom

Either way I enjoy the maturity in this thread.

See you guys are well capable of talking calmly with each other without outright flaming.

Agreed

1137

Tomlanji

<OrangeStar>

October 21st, 2013

#44

ishali

In the end of the day it is Citrinate's site he has control over who moderates the forum or not. He has changed a lot for the sites members. He made the infractions system so that people would actually be given a reason why the got a warning or an infraction, before it was just delete the post without any major reasons.

The members shouldn't vote on who becomes moderator or not in my opinion because it would just be based on who is popular or not.

For example, Mr X ran to be a moderator vs me. I know Mr X is more well known than me in DBO/DBOCOM at this moment in time because he still is playing DBO and is very active on the forums, whereas I am not(lurking in the shadows). Mr X would win the election due to his FRIENDS voting for him, not on who is the more capable at the job or not.

The capability criteria when I had been picked by Citrinate nearly 2 years ago was based on:
Has the person ever been banned, has the person flamed/broken the rules several times before, even after being notified about the forum rules. Does the person report posts that conflict with the forum rules or not.

So how can a normal member who does not see the moderator forum assess if Mr X is viable to become a moderator or not?? Despite Mr X having a bad reputation in breaking the rules. How would a normal member of this

Ok now to the next part.
If the current moderators are capable or not. I can say some of them are and some of them used to be. Some are just busy with real life things(me). Also we don't need anymore moderators as the workload isn't even much compared to when we had only 2-3 moderators who frequently were online and who moderated the site during DBO's peak activity.

You hit the nail on the head right there.
For instance Jocer, he is popular & everyone likes him. He would become a mod with ease.

560

Zellion

October 21st, 2013

#45

ishali

Wasn't going to comment on this but you hit the nail on the head.

Being a mod isn't about who's well liked. It's about who can do the job correctly and objectively.

There is nothing worse than a mod that brings their personaly isses with them.

532

ODSTxGundam

October 21st, 2013

#46

This is a revolution MOFO AND JOCER IS GONNA LEAD US INTO THE NEW AGE BECAUSE LUFFY CANT

Jocer

I am talking about the Cit, the mods and the rules. You might say "Why don't you just message Cit about this instead of making a thread" Well thats because NO ONE EVER REPLIES. I bet you everyone here who has ever messaged cit in the last 1-2 months about replying to an infraction, suggestions or anything like that has not gotten a a response.

I usually get a reply/infraction removed within 24hrs of replying if ever i get them

Jocer

The Mods right now are selfish, corrupted, not active or just give infractions for the hell of it. I have gotten infractions for pointless accusations that were never justified and never gotten a response back if i tried to fight for it. This has happened to many people on the site. Even as a loyal, helpful, respected member like me who has helped many people in the past gets banned for any stupid little thing. Your record doesn't mean squat here.

since dbo died i felt like nothing happened even with the mods so obv someone has a vendetta for you

Jocer

Also, getting infractions for off-topic post and wrong sections is ridiculous and outrageous. Off-topic is irrelevant because threads topics often switch throughout the threads discussion. Wrong Sections should just be moved. Why are the mods so lazy that they just have to infract people. Most threads are relevant in more than 1 sections should there shouldn't be no point in infractions.

dont you get 0 infractions for those just a warning

Jocer

I think instead of the mods we have now. We should vote on new mods. The people. Not just cit. Then, we should be able to vote every month if the mod is doing a great job or not. Because without a system like this, then there will be forever biased and no checks and balances to make sure everything is going smooth with liberty.

I can be the obama of dbo if you vote for me and if your a republican/conservative go fuck yourself

Jocer

Also, without DBO this forum will be just for old memories and a waste. We need to come up with new ideas to attract more members and keep things going even if the Private server isnt released.

we are now 5CHAN

6731

Citrinate

October 21st, 2013

#47

Winning or losing a popularity contest in no way suggests that a person is or isn't appropriate for a mod position.

All moderators have a say in which infractions are reversed and which stick, not just me or the person who gave you an infraction (which should be anonymous unless the mod reveals themselves). This also means that it's hard to say you have a problem with just one mod, because all of us are in some way responsible for every infraction.

I also still do read all of my PMs, and if I feel that a wrongful infraction may have been given I will look into it.

Most of the responses I get are of users acknowledging that they did something wrong and that they'll try to avoid repeating the same mistake in the future, and I don't respond to them because there's nothing to add. A very few people will write me angry little rants and feign ignorance of the rules every time they get an infraction, no matter how clearly a rule has been broken; I don't waste my time responding to messages like that.

The only PMs I respond to concerning infractions are those where I'm convinced the person has no idea why their actions have broken any rules, or if the infraction is reversed.

I'd also like to point out that the infraction system is incredibly forgiving in its current state. If you maybe get a minor 1 point infraction every now and then you shouldn't take it too personally, and you'll almost certainly never get banned for it. Bans are reserved for repeat offenders and serious offenses, and I think I can safely say that there's never been an unreversed ban here that cannot be justified.

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darkingdom

October 21st, 2013

#48

As an Asian Male man I can say for sure that everyone here Like Balls...Dragon Balls. That aside since we got the serious talk out of the way it is up to whomever it may concern to do something bout it.

If nothing change it's not like me or anyone here will find cit ip go to his house put on some jazz and whine. Wait till he came home and cook him some dinner. Sit him down on a nice chair and have a convo about the future of dbocom.. People will just have to deal or leave which will be sad but meh.

1137

Tomlanji

<OrangeStar>

October 21st, 2013

#49

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418

Godrain

<TheWarriors>

October 21st, 2013

#50

Tomlanji

You hit the nail on the head right there.
For instance Jocer, he is popular & everyone likes him. He would become a mod with ease.

not everyone likes him.

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