So what I can't point something about out Jocer without it being called a personal fued? Jocer is essentially crying wolf. All I'm doing is pointing that out, and I am allowed to.
By the way you three jumped down my throat so fast. I honestly almost didn't see Jocer pulling your strings. May I direct you to this video, I feel it would help.
So what I can't point something about out Jocer without it being called a personal fued? Jocer is essentially crying wolf. All I'm doing is pointing that out, and I am allowed to.
Welcome to dbocom. So no, your not allowed to point it out because your just encouraging him to break the rules.
If you really want to save yourself the hassle then why not let someone else deal with the problem. You're not a moderator anymore. You claim you want to "save yourself a headache" from being mod. Then you keep on posting intentionally in threads like this to stir up trouble with jocer. You then have the nerve to say "you wonder how long until citrinate removes jocer from this site" which is flaming him in a way.
So yes, I do honestly wonder when Citrnate is just going to say to himself "Enough" and remove Jocer for good. Citrinate doesn't care how well Jocer played DBO, nor does he care about guides he has made two years ago. He only cares about current actions on the forums and fact is Jocer is for lack of a better term throwing a hissy fit every time he gets infracted.
Like I said, this is not a Jocer hate thread. Stop trying to spin it around on Jocer complaining about his infraction, as he messaged citrinate and got no response as usual from the busy important website owner he is. If Citrinate didn't want this thread being made or jocer being a "crying wolf" then citrinate should have answered his PM.
I'm not falling for your "oh look I'm not a moderator" anymore. Let's face it, you're just trying to be a moderator scape goat. Trying to act like you solved a problem by demoting yourself, when you still stick your nose in these threads.
If you really want to save yourself the hassle then why not let someone else deal with the problem. You're not a moderator anymore. You claim you want to "save yourself a headache" from being mod. Then you keep on posting intentionally in threads like this to stir up trouble with jocer. You then have the nerve to say "you wonder how long until citrinate removes jocer from this site" which is flaming him in a way.
You even take another step further saying:
Like I said, this is not a Jocer hate thread. Stop trying to spin it around on Jocer complaining about his infraction, as he messaged citrinate and got no response as usual from the busy important website owner he is. If Citrinate didn't want this thread being made or jocer being a "crying wolf" then citrinate should have answered his PM.
I'm not falling for your "oh look I'm not a moderator" anymore. Let's face it, you're just trying to be a moderator scape goat. Trying to act like you solved a problem by demoting yourself, when you still stick your nose in these threads.
You're accusing me of being off topic and only targeting Jocer with this because of fueds? I'm not off topic. I'm only pointing out that Jocer is once again making a hissy fit thread for not getting what he wanted. So since Jocer is on 2 points and can't reive a thrid he is sending you AppleTree and Simmy to respond to me instead. Do you think I don't realize this? Your hope is to have me banned before Jocer to discredit my opinion on the matter. You want to flip it so I'm the trouble making member while Jocer is the holy saint.
Bottom line your accusing me of only attacking Jocer cause of a fued when all I have done is comment on his third bitching thread in a weeks time. Meanwhile I have Appletree trying to attack my IRL character, Simmy trying to attack my motivations and you trying to attack my creditability as a mod.
So if I'm only posting based on the fued between myself and Jocer. What they fuck are you three doing?
If you really want to save yourself the hassle then why not let someone else deal with the problem. You're not a moderator anymore. You claim you want to "save yourself a headache" from being mod. Then you keep on posting intentionally in threads like this to stir up trouble with jocer. You then have the nerve to say "you wonder how long until citrinate removes jocer from this site" which is flaming him in a way.
You even take another step further saying:
Like I said, this is not a Jocer hate thread. Stop trying to spin it around on Jocer complaining about his infraction, as he messaged citrinate and got no response as usual from the busy important website owner he is. If Citrinate didn't want this thread being made or jocer being a "crying wolf" then citrinate should have answered his PM.
I'm not falling for your "oh look I'm not a moderator" anymore. Let's face it, you're just trying to be a moderator scape goat. Trying to act like you solved a problem by demoting yourself, when you still stick your nose in these threads.
stick your nose in these threads? isn't that what you're doing? Its actually not trying to spin it around that jocer complaining. Don't get me wrong i don't hate jocer or dislike him. But, he can't feel butt-hurt if i say stuff on this thread anyway. If someone makes 2 threads already about the same thing. don't you think thats going overboard? He just wants to get his point across. Basically a kid trying to get his daddy's attention but, he won't listen. <-- just an example.
By the way Tempest all you're doing is contradicting yourself. when you say "when you still stick your nose in these threads"
stick your nose in these threads? isn't that what you're doing? Its actually not trying to spin it around that jocer complaining. Don't get me wrong i don't hate jocer or dislike him. But, he can't feel butt-hurt if i say stuff on this thread anyway. If someone makes 2 threads already about the same thing. don't you think thats going overboard? He just wants to get his point across. Basically a kid trying to get his daddy's attention but, he won't listen. <-- just an example.
By the way Tempest all you're doing is contradicting yourself. when you say "when you still stick your nose in these threads"
Um, where did I ever say I wasn't sticking my nose in these threads? Of course I am...
I am only pointing out that jaxill complained about being a moderator, and that he would receive "headaches" from the job, and yet he is still posting in threads like that. Thats all. So yeah, don't know how I ever contradicted myself.
You're accusing me of being off topic and only targeting Jocer with this because of fueds? I'm not off topic. I'm only pointing out that Jocer is once again making a hissy fit thread for not getting what he wanted. So since Jocer is on 2 points and can't reive a thrid he is sending you AppleTree and Simmy to respond to me instead. Do you think I don't realize this? Your hope is to have me banned before Jocer to discredit my opinion on the matter. You want to flip it so I'm the trouble making member while Jocer is the holy saint.
Bottom line your accusing me of only attacking Jocer cause of a fued when all I have done is comment on his third bitching thread in a weeks time. Meanwhile I have Appletree trying to attack my IRL character, Simmy trying to attack my motivations and you trying to attack my creditability as a mod.
So if I'm only posting based on the fued between myself and Jocer. What they fuck are you three doing?
He is only complaining because Citrinate never responded to him. What part of that don't you understand? Yes I am sticking up for Jocer because I think he, as a long time member of this community, deserves to be responded to by Citrinate the admin of this website.
Jocer is apart of the DBOPS team. He currently is contributing more to this site and the project then you have jaxill, and you say things like "You want jocer to be removed off this site". Instead of thanking a member of the team for their efforts, you're trying to have him removed from this site entirely. Go figure.
I've said this time and time again, I don't want all this crap to intervene with DBOPS and it's developement. I believe Jocer is a fairly important member with that and I don't want the bullshit happening on this site to get in the way. I don't want jocer to be removed from this site like you said Jaxill.
Which brings me to my original point. This is not a jocer hate thread. I caught wind that you were trying to spin this thread in that direction.
You're attacking members of the DBOPS team, so of course I will step in for them. Don't get in the way of DBOPS. If you cared about it, you will join and help out and work together with us for DBO's future instead of trying to go against members of the team.
Um, where did I ever say I wasn't sticking my nose in these threads? Of course I am...
I am only pointing out that jaxill complained about being a moderator, and that he would receive "headaches" from the job, and yet he is still posting in threads like that. Thats all. So yeah, don't know how I ever contradicted myself.
He is only complaining because Citrinate never responded to him. What part of that don't you understand? Yes I am sticking up for Jocer because I think he, as a long time member of this community, deserves to be responded to by Citrinate the admin of this website.
Jocer is apart of the DBOPS team. He currently is contributing more to this site and the project then you have jaxill, and you say things like "You want jocer to be removed off this site".
I've said this time and time again, I don't want all this crap to intervene with DBOPS and it's developement. I believe Jocer is a fairly important member with that and I don't want the bullshit happening on this site to get in the way. I don't want jocer to be removed from this site like you said Jaxill.
Which brings me to my original point. This is not a jocer hate thread. I caught wind that you were trying to spin this thread in that direction.
You're attacking members of the DBOPS team, so of course I will step in for them. Don't get in the way of DBOPS. If you cared about it, you will join and help out and work together with us for DBO's future instead of trying to go against members of the team.
What a crock of shit. Have I complained about being a mod at times yes, cause sometimes dealing with the stupidity of this site is overwhelming. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop trying to help. As for Jocer helping with dbops please enlighten me to how he has helped. From the way I see it he is just there to watch the progress, that doesn't make him apart of the team.
Please enlighten me on how I tried to turn this into a hate Jocer thread? Last I checked the three of you are harping on a post I made on the first page. I commented that Jocer is making another bitching thread, which is true. He is making a third thread complaining about the mod staff just because he didn't get what he wanted.
In the last two threads thread Jocer has made, he has targeted myself before I even entered the thread. Was he turning the threads into a hate Jaxill thread? All I see right now is three lackeys attacking me because I refuse to fall in line and just agree with Jocer. Hell Claire made a comment who has been trying to remain neutral to both me and Jocer as she is friends with both of us, is being attacked because she doesn't agree with this particular thread.
This isn't an "I hate Jocer thread". This is an "Agree with jocer or be attacked by his lackeys" thread.
So what I can't point something about out Jocer without it being called a personal fued? Jocer is essentially crying wolf. All I'm doing is pointing that out, and I am allowed to.
By the way you three jumped down my throat so fast. I honestly almost didn't see Jocer pulling your strings. May I direct you to this video, I feel it would help.
You can, but it always appears to get heated. If you don't want it to be called a personal feud then stop losing your cool.
I was speaking about the past several days in general, not just this thread.
As for your infraction, I do agree the original poster should be allowed to change the topic, to an extent. The new topic should at least be in some way related to the original topic, which is reflected in both the "Before" and "After" rules(note the "extremely off topic" part). The original topic of the thread in question was the history of gaming. You had complained about people going off topic in the thread, and then later you and Jaxill went off on a tangent about moderator corruption. In both the before and after rules your posts were off topic.
So no, it isn't bullshit and your logic is flawed.
So Jocer is pulling my strings is he? Your logic is flawed as well Jaxill.
You can, but it always appears to get heated. If you don't want it to be called a personal feud then stop losing your cool.
Step in before the personal attacks against me start and actually moderate it and it wont get heated. Stop being afraid to infract just because he is attacking the mod staff. These kind of outbursts are what the mod staff is for. This isn't only directed at you but the whole mod staff in general. they are letting these outbursts go out of fear of being called corrupt.
So Jocer is pulling my strings is he? Your logic is flawed as well Jaxill.
I wasn't talking about you, but in a way yes Jocer is pulling your strings. The mod team knows you dislike Jocer, so you are hesitant to take action against him. Jocer knows this as well, and is using that to his advantage to have another mod turn a blind eye to him.
Mods need to stop worrying about what members think of them, be it myself, Jocer or any other member. Pull out your big boy pants and do the job. Even if that means removing myself in the process. I'd rather be banned then watch Jocer control the forums just cause he can cause a riot.
Do your job, close this thread and hand out the appropriate infractions.
I was just making a public thread about my infraction and i hear is Jocer this and Jocer that.
Jax hop off my dick already, if you feel some type of way. Come to brooklyn, you have my address and do something straight up. Vice versa. Just SHUT THE FUCK UP.
This thread wasnt towards you at all. It was towards Cit not replying to an unjustified thread. Maybe the thread was a little mis-leading but, i was mislead as well being told something that was changed the next day. Look at the threead anyway, i wasnt the one to go off-topic.
all you mods should just demote yourselves just so the site can close already.
Step in before the personal attacks against me start and actually moderate it and it wont get heated. Stop being afraid to infract just because he is attacking the mod staff. These kind of outbursts are what the mod staff is for. This isn't only directed at you but the whole mod staff in general. they are letting these outbursts go out of fear of being called corrupt.
I wasn't talking about you, but in a way yes Jocer is pulling your strings. The mod team knows you dislike Jocer, so you are hesitant to take action against him. Jocer knows this as well, and is using that to his advantage to have another mod turn a blind eye to him.
Mods need to stop worrying about what members think of them, be it myself, Jocer or any other member. Pull out your big boy pants and do the job. Even if that means removing myself in the process. I'd rather be banned then watch Jocer control the forums just cause he can cause a riot.
Do your job, close this thread and hand out the appropriate infractions.
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